My guest this week is Dr. Margo Atkins-Jackson, an assistant principal with a name so amazing that when you hear it, you immediately assume she’s someone who fights crime in a jumpsuit. In this interview, Margo and I talk about why she thinks a divide exists between teachers and administrators, what she has learned during her transition from classroom teacher to school administrator, and why it’s so crucial to say “no” from time to time.

My guest this week is Dr. Stephen Glass, a former principal and now district administrator in West Covina, California. In this interview, Stephen and I talk about why a divide exists between teachers and administrators, the one thing every school needs to have, and why hip-hop artist Rick Ross would be a better Secretary of Education than Betsy DeVos.